Re: Re: people with autism
By: fusion to MIKE POWELL on Sat May 02 2026 02:25 pm
The real weird one is 19. the guy what took off for 45+ mins is
around 35. The kid's mom is real smart, but he isn't really at all like that. my lead actually apologized because he thought he'd only be with me a few hours.
Basically in the workforce i see 18-25-30 years old that do outragious
things even when making decent pay.
Being high at work. walking off. taking 2 half hour lunches back to back. I'm also near minnesota so there's cultural and other problems/issues because there's hmong and somali. I don't know. is it cultural or what when you hide someplace at work to talk with your friends for half the night? Or don't come back from the breakroom so your supervisors have to come get 30 people. I usually have a regular job and then a pt job to help pay off my credit cars so I've seen a lot of weird shit.
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All of those people were born at/after the internet was
released. For years, I've noticed a fundamental difference
between pre and post internet people.
yeah we had hypnotic video games that we were glued to all day and night. yes i went outside sometimes to play basketball and other stuff.
All of those people were born at/after the internet was released. For
years, I've noticed a fundamental difference between pre and post internet
people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
All of those people were born at/after the internet was
released. For years, I've noticed a fundamental difference
between pre and post internet people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
fusion wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
I wonder about that also. Kids of a certain age and below have grown up in a world of mobile phones, tablets, etc., and I very much suspect that the ones that have been allowed to interact with these objects without,
or with little, restriction have broken attention spans.
there is research coming out that any education involving computers, tablets, etc. is reducing student outcome. i don't know if it's just people's brains being wired to think "this knowledge is always
available on the internet i don't need it now (or may never)" vs "this
is knowledge i have in my own head, i might need it someday" or what..
Those of us who are old enough that we grew up in houses without such things really notice the difference.
then again we had video games and tons of junk TV and movies (including subliminal messaging! ever want a dr pepper after watching spiderman
with tobey maguire? lol) and somehow we managed to put a line between
that and education.
MRO wrote to mike powell <=-
Being high at work. walking off. taking 2 half hour lunches back to back. I'm also near minnesota so there's cultural and other problems/issues because there's hmong and somali. I don't know. is it cultural or what when you hide someplace at work to talk with your
friends for half the night? Or don't come back from the breakroom so
your supervisors have to come get 30 people. I usually have a regular
job and then a pt job to help pay off my credit cars so I've seen a lot
of weird shit.
Oh? I think what he meant was when the internet became mainstream. I hadn't even heard of the internet before 1995.
Nightfox
All of those people were born at/after the internet was
released. For years, I've noticed a fundamental difference between
pre and post internet people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
After it was created, maybe. It didn't move from being for
universities and the government to being a thing for the general
public until I was in my mid-20's and out of college.
* SLMR 2.1a * Psychoceramics: The study of crackpots.
seen a lot of weird shit.
Yeah, back when I was that age, doing things like that was a good
way to get fired.
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
Oh? I think what he meant was when the internet became mainstream. I hadn't even heard of the internet before 1995.
Mike Powell wrote to fusion <=-
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back
towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a
good thing. ;)
Those of us who are old enough that we grew up in houses without such things really notice the difference.
then again we had video games and tons of junk TV and movies (including subliminal messaging! ever want a dr pepper after watching spiderman
with tobey maguire? lol) and somehow we managed to put a line between
that and education.
IIRC, the Tobey Maguire Spiderman came out when I was around 30. :D
Some kids I knew had video game equipment at home, but most of us
didn't. TV does come with some gotchas but it does require you to pay attention so you don't miss something... especially back in the day
when most of us couldn't record it and there was no streaming. ;)
On the internet, it has got to where sites like Youtube prioritize
short content (< 2 minutes) over longer form videos. A lot of creators
of long form content have been complaining about that because they are loosing views and money to the short form content. Best as I can tell, everything on sites like Instagram and Tik Tok are aimed at short attention spans.
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MRO wrote to Mike Powell <=-
now in the hurt feelings age managers are afraid to crack down on
people unless it's a small place. at amazon if the managers get
reported to hr they take a 2+ week unpaid school for sensativity
training. so they ignore poor workers for the most part. that is
changing now because it was really not working out.
Around '92 for me. That's about when all the BBS's started dying off or offering internet service if I remember correctly.1998 is when bbsing largely died in my area code.
universities and the government to being a thing for the general
public until I was in my mid-20's and out of college.
i think the guy was confusing the web with the internet.
Yes, most of us were born before "the web" was created. ;)
I've always loved pen and paper - still use notebooks at work for
taking notes during meetings. Back then, I loved buying school
supplies in September - especially the little geometry kits with
pencils, protractors, stencils, and a little ruler.
There was a story on NPR a couple of years ago about New York City
teachers who'd been written up for incompetence, insubordination
or poor performance. They weren't allowed to teach, but received
full pay and support from the teacher's union. They were sent to
"temporary re-assignment centers", commonly known as Rubber Rooms,
to await the next steps. Some people had been there for years,
showing up and sitting in a room to do nothing for the day.
Re: Re: people with autism
By: MRO to Raymar on Mon May 04 2026 12:51 am
All of those people were born at/after the internet was released. For
years, I've noticed a fundamental difference between pre and post intern
people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
Oh? I think what he meant was when the internet became mainstream. I hadn' even heard of the internet before 1995.
Nightfox
Re: Re: people with autism
By: Mike Powell to fusion on Sun May 03 2026 02:47 pm
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a good thing. ;)
Here in Utah, we have the "Bell to Bell" ban on cellphone usage.
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a
good thing. ;)
I was trying to tutor my sophomore daughter on geometry -- drawing a
figure on paper and measuring angles was so much easier than what she
was trying to do on a screen.
I've always loved pen and paper - still use notebooks at work for taking notes during meetings. Back then, I loved buying school supplies in
September - especially the little geometry kits with pencils,
protractors, stencils, and a little ruler.
Yes, most of us were born before "the web" was created. ;)
well we are considered old. but the web is just a layer of the internet. it's not the entirety of what the internet is and what it does.
now in the hurt feelings age managers are afraid to crack down on
people unless it's a small place. at amazon if the managers get
reported to hr they take a 2+ week unpaid school for sensativity training. so they ignore poor workers for the most part. that is changing now because it was really not working out.
There was a story on NPR a couple of years ago about New York City
teachers who'd been written up for incompetence, insubordination or
poor performance. They weren't allowed to teach, but received full pay
and support from the teacher's union. They were sent to "temporary
re-assignment centers", commonly known as Rubber Rooms, to await the
next steps. Some people had been there for years, showing up and
sitting in a room to do nothing for the day.
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the websites.
well we are considered old. but the web is just a layer of the internet.
it's not the entirety of what the internet is and what it does.
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the websites.
The impact of a total internet collapse would be immediate, far-reaching, and increasingly severe as the hours turned into weeks. Modern society is built on a foundation of "always-on" connectivity, and removing it would trigger a domino effect across almost every sector of human life.Phase 1: The Initial Shock (0-24 Hours)
Denn wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a good thing. ;)
Here in Utah, we have the "Bell to Bell" ban on cellphone usage.
phigan wrote to Denn <=-
In Soviet Russia, cellphone ban YOU!
Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before
the web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps
surplanted the websites.
Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I'm a millennial/xennial, but by the time I had heard of the internet (1995), the web already existed. To me, "internet before the web" suggests BBSes and services like Prodigy, AOL, etc., which technically weren't the internet (and services like AOL & such initially weren't connected to the internet, from what I recall).
phigan wrote to Nightfox <=-
There was also a lot of .planning and fingering going on.
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the
web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the
websites.
I'm a millennial/xennial, but by the time I had heard of the internet (1995),
the web already existed. To me, "internet before the web" suggests BBSes and
services like Prodigy, AOL, etc., which technically weren't the internet (and
services like AOL & such initially weren't connected to the internet, from what
I recall).
Gopher was the thing before the webs, and it was still around in 95 kinda. That
and archie/veronica and ftp sites like funet.fi and wustl.edu. There was also a
lot of .planning and fingering going on.
I'm a millennial/xennial, but by the time I had heard of the internet(1995),
the web already existed. To me, "internet before the web" suggests BBSesand
services like Prodigy, AOL, etc., which technically weren't the internet
The "internet before the web" was email, LISTSERV, usenet, gopher, trickle, ftp, telnet, talk, and other (almost entirely) text based sites/protocols/utilities used by the universities and government sites that were using it before it became a commercial venture.
The Rise of Analog Alternatives: Shortwave radio (HAM radio), physical mail, and landline telephony would become the primary modes of long-distance communication.
-Now that is a scary scenario.
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the websites.
How do we reclaim that wide-eyed wonder we had at telnetting into a
system a half a world away, or receiving an email in realtime for the
first time? Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
How do we reclaim that wide-eyed wonder we had at telnetting into a
system a half a world away, or receiving an email in realtime for the
first time? Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
I think that is sort of like asking "how does one become a virgin again"? Aside from some amnesia event, it really isn't possible.
Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
Gopher was the thing before the webs, and it was still around in 95 kinda. That and archie/veronica and ftp sites like funet.fi and wustl.edu. There wasI would love to see a gopher door for bbses.
also a lot of .planning and fingering going on.
Re: Re: people with autism
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 07 2026 07:52 am
Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
Or the Joy of discovering the *.bin forums on Usenet. :P
I'm aware. I was just saying that for me, I used BBSes; I didn't use listserv,
gopher, archie, etc.. When I started using the internet, I mainly used the web, FTP, IRC, and usenet.
How do we reclaim that wide-eyed wonder we had at telnetting into a
system a half a world away, or receiving an email in realtime for the
first time? Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
I think that is sort of like asking "how does one become a virgin again"?
Aside from some amnesia event, it really isn't possible.
How do you un-bake a cake?
Mike Powell wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
How do we reclaim that wide-eyed wonder we had at telnetting into a
system a half a world away, or receiving an email in realtime for the
first time? Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
I think that is sort of like asking "how does one become a virgin
again"? Aside from some amnesia event, it really isn't possible.
The other day I was thinking how nice it would be to remember that I
liked a movie but only remember what happened during the movie for a
short while. That way, after a brief time, I could watch "The Cabinet
of Dr. Caligari" or the original "Nosferatu" and relive that initial surprise/shock of the reveal of the monster and the surprise endings.
For that matter, to be able to rewatch a classic like "Casablanca" and relive the surprise of that ending.
Short of some catastrophic event, it is not possible.
KrAAB wrote to Denn <=-
I agree, I love technology and always have but I have said in the past
if internet and the like ever goes down the world is screwed.
Everything should have some old tech backup systems. I understand about the paper backups of things like Dr records, etc as well but most went digital (cloud) for storage of them. It's going to happen one day
though.
Mike Powell wrote to Denn <=-
Yes, especially when you consider that things like landlines don't
really exist anymore. I do have one, but it has long been converted to 100% VOIP on the provider's end.
Sounds like if the internet goes out, it is a good idea to make a trip
to the grocery store before things get crazy.
Nightfox wrote to Mike Powell <=-
How do you un-bake a cake?
Matthew Munson wrote to PHIGAN <=-was
Gopher was the thing before the webs, and it was still around in 95 kinda. That and archie/veronica and ftp sites like funet.fi and wustl.edu. There
also a lot of .planning and fingering going on.
I would love to see a gopher door for bbses.
It's all tossed salads and scrambled eggs.
I would love to see a gopher door for bbses.
My friends wasted their day. One outright said he laid on the bed for the whole day because he had nothing to do with his life without InternetI had a dead era for almost ten years. What a bloody waste of my life. I know I likely have Autism, but I had to
access.
i would suggest getting a way to treat water and make it drinkable
and contain it if you live near a water source.
Good suggestion. That is something I am missing in my setup to a
degree.
My house is placed right next to a river and we have a good well.
We have not made any analysis on the water, though. Horses and dogs
drink it fine.
I keep huge stashes of water but it is more of a convenience thing.
I live on the coast, and we have occasional long blackouts -
sometimes preventative during high winds to help prevent fires,
other times because we're dependent on a power line running over
a ravine that has trees fall on it more than I'd like.
Some neighbors have battery/solar setups or generators, I've been
able to get by with a hybrid vehicle and an inverter. I can run an
extension cord into my house to power my fridge and tankless
water heater. We have a gas stove and a barbecue.
Once I turn off my homelab, I've got a 1500va UPS I can use if needed
for electricity.
The last time I had an extended outage, I was running the BBS off of
a laptop. I took the laptop with me to a starbucks with wifi and
crashmailed all of my downlinks.
I enjoyed the time - my Kindle is charged, I have a stack of books
I've been waiting to read, and I journalled and wrote in a notebook.
Go to bed early when the sun goes down, wake up early when the sun
comes up, like people used to do.
James Cameron was involved in a show called "Dark Angel", had sort of a
"secret government supersoldier" plot but was set in the early 2000s.
An EMP was set of 10 years earlier, throwing civilazation back.
How do you un-bake a cake?
Netflix is doing that - the last few of their action movies we've
watched were entertaining, had good casts. You'd watch them on a Sunday,
and by Wedsnesday, I couldn't tell you what the hell the storyline was.
...vending machine with $5 cans of coke.
I did find the gas stations in the TV show selling gas for $6/gallon
apocalyptic, as was the vending machine with $5 cans of coke. Seeing
those prices in real life without losing our infrastructure seems off.
It's all tossed salads and scrambled eggs.
They're callin' again..
MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The last time I had an extended outage, I was running the BBS off of
a laptop. I took the laptop with me to a starbucks with wifi and
crashmailed all of my downlinks.
did anybody complain about losing mail
Mike Powell wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Was the main character a courier of some sort, and female? I think I vaguely remember that one.
MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The last time I had an extended outage, I was running the BBS off of
a laptop. I took the laptop with me to a starbucks with wifi and crashmailed all of my downlinks.
did anybody complain about losing mail
Only one of my downlinks in Fidonet complained. No suprises there.
Mortar wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Do you remember the titles? I watched a CGI movie called Swapped a few days ago. Not exactly original, but still enjoyed it.
Mortar wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I've seen gas for $6, but never $5 cans of code, unless it's a 12-pack
or something.
MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The last time I had an extended outage, I was running the BBS off of
a laptop. I took the laptop with me to a starbucks with wifi and crashmailed all of my downlinks.
did anybody complain about losing mail
Only one of my downlinks in Fidonet complained. No suprises there.
i think 2 people did!
I've seen gas for $6, but never $5 cans of code, unless it's a 12-pack or something.
Mortar wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I've seen gas for $6, but never $5 cans of code, unless it's a
12-pack or something.
Casinos, movie theaters, hotels...
I have seen $10-11 12-pack soft drinks here. That has been the going
rate at Kroger now for at least 2 years. :( At Walmart they've
been $7-8 per 12-pack for a while, unless you are buying the house
brand.
Although, I'd hate to make an action film nowadays and try to compete
with action + imaginative worldbuilding, a la John Wick.
MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
movie theaters have cans of soda?
Mike Powell wrote to Mortar <=-
I've seen gas for $6, but never $5 cans of code, unless it's a 12-pack or something.
I have only ever seen gas for $6 when I was in California in 2023. I
had never seen it break $4 here in Kentucky until within the past 6
weeks, although it got real close c2023.
I have seen $10-11 12-pack soft drinks here. That has been the going
rate at Kroger now for at least 2 years. :( At Walmart they've been
$7-8 per 12-pack for a while, unless you are buying the house brand.
I've seen gas for $6, but never $5 cans of code, unless it's a 12-pack or something.
Casinos, movie theaters, hotels...
I have seen $10-11 12-pack soft drinks here. That has been the going rate at Kroger now for at least 2 years. :( At Walmart they've
been $7-8 per 12-pack for a while, unless you are buying the house
brand.
use walgreens, dollar general and amazon for deals.
Walmart is usually the best source here. Dollar General may have some things that are lower priced but won't carry many of the other things I would be looking for during a grocery run.
MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
you are looking at your local grocery store. that's the problem. they price gouge. go for walgreens, dollar general and amazon. i'm buying
12 packs for 5-6 bucks.
I've seen gas for $6, but never $5 cans of code, unless it's a 12-pack or
something.
MAGA loves to point out gas at a little gas station in Big Sur, along
the California coast. It's a little station dozens of miles away from
any other station. They intentionally price the gas higher to incent
people to get gas before they need it along the coast as they don't
have small tanks and 2 pumps.
The rest of California is usually 2 bucks cheaper.
I have only ever seen gas for $6 when I was in California in 2023.
I have seen $10-11 12-pack soft drinks here. That has been the going rate at Kroger now for at least 2 years. :( At Walmart they've been $7-8 per 12-pack for a while, unless you are buying the house brand.
Seeing a 12-pack of Diet Coke over $10 (when I could find it) cured me
of my soda addiction. Don't know what's going on, but I'd look at my
local grocery stores, and they'd have lots of Coke, Cherry coke,
Vanilla Coke, caffeine free coke, and an empty space where all of the
Diet Coke used to be.
Casinos, movie theaters, hotels...
Most of those places are always higher, although it has been so long since I have ordered anything at any of those places I wouldn't
know if $5 is an increase over their normal rate or not.
Casinos have free soda.
You can make your own low tech one pretty easy; it's all the same concept. You just need to get the correct gravel and minerals in the correct order. Probably just gravity feed your water source into it and it comes out
the base.
well the john wick movies had very little substance and story telling.
i think that type of movie would work fine as a ai movie. but they had keanu as the draw. you cant just put anybody into a movie like that.
MRO wrote to Arelor <=-
it worked because everyone loves keanu. and they killed his dog.
it worked because everyone loves keanu. and they killed his dog.
I appreciated the callback in a sequel when Halle Berry's character kills everyone in the room. John Wick questions the overreaction, and she says "They killed my dog!"
John Wick says "I get it..."
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
One of my favorite lines of dialogue in the John Wick movies was I
think in the 2nd movie, where one of the mob bosses was telling someone
"I can assure you that the stories you hear about this man, if nothing else, have been watered down."
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